topic Re: questions regarding Z5 v Z3 in Z Series

Xperia Z5 is slower than it's predecessors predecessor!

MaxKøngeskov — Sun, 04 Sep 2016 01:17:20 GMT

Hi, I own a Z5 and it's slow.

My father own's a Z3, it's faster, and it's snappier, that mentioned, it only have a quad core processor, I got octa, and i get beaten in boot time, and UI speed, why? Why should I keep continue to buy Xperia, if all I get is worse performance? See my point? Nobody will keep supporting a productline, which lose quality, rather it should be gaining quality. The Z5 is slower than it's predecessors predecessor, for what reason? It got better specs, better hardware, so why Sony? I am beyond confused, and feel like I just might not purchase Xperia anymore. If you don't fix the Z5 slowness, I'm no longer getting flagship Sony phones.

Re: questions regarding Z5 v Z3

Uliwooly — Sun, 04 Sep 2016 01:26:33 GMT

@MaxKøngeskov

Do elaborate, tell me what you are testing and I'll gladly test it with my devices, also, it could be a third party app slowing down your phone, boot BOTH devices in >>> safe mode and test it again. But DO elaborate

Re: Xperia Z5 is slower than it's predecessors predecessor!

MaxKøngeskov — Sun, 04 Sep 2016 01:29:37 GMT

Hello, well, I can only elaborate to my best. It's generally the UI, and the very start up (boot) of the phone, which takes longer than the Xperia Z3. It seems as if it doesn't matter whether there are apps or not on it, even after a clean reset. One fellow even documented it on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FcdrhMnhTys

Re: questions regarding Z5 v Z3

Uliwooly — Sun, 04 Sep 2016 01:32:17 GMT

@MaxKøngeskov

I just clicked on the video and it's from back in 2015, so I'll ignore it for right now, I'm asking about YOUR experience not a youtuber.

Boot BOTH devices in safe mode > record a video > post it on youtube > share the link.

I have an Xperia Z3, Z5, Z5 Premium and many other Xperias I can test side to side, but I need YOU to tell me more about your issue, again, YOUR issue/experience NOT some youtuber or someone else.

Re: Xperia Z5 is slower than it's predecessors predecessor!

MaxKøngeskov — Sun, 04 Sep 2016 01:40:50 GMT

My issue is, that I bought a flagship device, and it's slower than a Z3, which I know, because my dad got a Z3, and it beat my phone in speed.

You can try to take a Z3 and a Z5 and try boot them simultaneously, and you'll see the Z3 wins, which makes me, buying a Z5 a little cheated I think, despite having "superior" hardware, it doesn't perform, it could as easily just be a lie about the hardware, since it doesn't in particular feel very better, than "inferior hardware" in the Z3.

Re: Xperia Z5 is slower than it's predecessors predecessor!

Uliwooly — Sun, 04 Sep 2016 01:45:52 GMT

@MaxKøngeskov

Let me try to understand your claim, are you saying that the Z5 it's slower than the Z3 because one phone takes longer to boot than the other? if you base your claim on that solely example you are for a surprise, follow my suggestion and let us know, or you can contact Sony directly: >>> Local support as this is a user based forum.

You should also take into consideration other aspects and the fact that both devices are now running new Android flavors.

Re: Xperia Z5 is slower than it's predecessors predecessor!

MaxKøngeskov — Sun, 04 Sep 2016 01:54:43 GMT

"Let me try to understand your claim, are you saying that the Z5 it's slower than the Z3 because one phone takes longer to boot than the other?"

Do I really have to write, the 4th time now?

And it's not only the boot time, it's the UI aswell, browsing the web, opening apps, using the camera, it's all slower on the Z5 than it's predecessor, so, your claim of octa cores doesn't mean anything, when it doesn't perform faster, than it's on paper "inferrior" predecessor.

Re: Xperia Z5 is slower than it's predecessors predecessor!

MaxKøngeskov — Sun, 04 Sep 2016 01:58:04 GMT

The Xperia Z5 is equivelant to, if Ferrari said "Our new model has a larger engine, better tires and suspension than it's predecessor." and then the predecessor simply somkes the newer Ferrari, I feel like the guy, who bought the new Ferrari, with the bigger "larger engine" but then get's somked by last years models.

Re: questions regarding Z5 v Z3

Uliwooly — Sun, 04 Sep 2016 02:00:00 GMT

@MaxKøngeskov

it seems that I have to repeat myself

let us know when you want to post your own comparision video and/or contact Sony directly Local support

...boot BOTH devices in >>> safe mode and test it again. But DO elaborate...

Boot BOTH devices in safe mode > record a video > post it on youtube > share the link.

...follow my suggestion and let us know, or you can contact Sony directly: >>> Local support as this is a user based forum.

Re: questions regarding Z5 v Z3

MaxKøngeskov — Sun, 04 Sep 2016 02:00:53 GMT

How do I boot in safe mode?

Re: questions regarding Z5 v Z3

Uliwooly — Sun, 04 Sep 2016 02:02:08 GMT

@MaxKøngeskov

If you pay attention to what I've said since my first post you should know how to, let us know when you create the videos and post the links here.

Re: questions regarding Z5 v Z3

MaxKøngeskov — Sun, 04 Sep 2016 02:05:04 GMT

1. You are rude.
2. You have not informed how to boot to "safe mode".
3. You ignore my query.
4. You're losing a Sony customer goodwill.
5. You will be reported for exclusively bad service.

Re: Xperia Z5 is slower than it's predecessors predecessor!

Lord_viridis — Sun, 04 Sep 2016 02:07:44 GMT

Galaxy s2 took 12 seconds to boot, Galaxy S6 takes 14.
Going by this logic, Galaxy S2 is faster no?

Re: questions regarding Z5 v Z3

Uliwooly — Sun, 04 Sep 2016 02:08:47 GMT

@MaxKøngeskov

Refer to my first post, and second, third and fourth for all your points (even my 5th post).

Re: Xperia Z5 is slower than it's predecessors predecessor!

MaxKøngeskov — Sun, 04 Sep 2016 02:10:05 GMT

Of course, if the boot time is faster, it's faster (the principle of identity, classic logic.)

Re: questions regarding Z5 v Z3

MaxKøngeskov — Sun, 04 Sep 2016 02:11:05 GMT

I have already reported you unwilling cooperation.

Re: Xperia Z5 is slower than it's predecessors predecessor!

Lord_viridis — Sun, 04 Sep 2016 02:12:02 GMT

Test for you,
Take a 60fps 1080p small video.
Open any editor on play store.
Apply a filter
By now the hints of power will be showing as you wait for Z3 to finish.
Now export as 1080p mp4.
Report back how many MINUTES faster Z5 was.

Re: Xperia Z5 is slower than it's predecessors predecessor!

MaxKøngeskov — Sun, 04 Sep 2016 02:14:01 GMT

It's not what I am addressing, so i't irrelevant in this case.

That the Z5 is faster in one place, doesn't justify the older version is faster at boot. That's an illogical assumption.

Re: questions regarding Z5 v Z3

Uliwooly — Sun, 04 Sep 2016 02:14:38 GMT

@MaxKøngeskov

@MaxKøngeskov wrote:
I have already reported you unwilling cooperation.

@MaxKøngeskov wrote:
Of course, if the boot time is faster, it's faster (the principle of identity, classic logic.)

Thank you? Non Sequitur logic?

Follow @Viridis suggestion, maybe this time you do pay attention.

Re: questions regarding Z5 v Z3

MaxKøngeskov — Sun, 04 Sep 2016 02:16:10 GMT

The two statements are not in context, you take them OUT of context, that's illogical.

Not only that, you now derail my query.